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« Reply #30: February 26, 2009, 09:34:33 PM »

I don't believe that forgone opportunity means that we should retain more wild fish.  We as river anglers are the last ones up the food chain and any fish released at that point is a positive for the resource.  My example is more a cruel reminder that good intentioned policy can have negative effects occasionally.

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« Reply #31: February 26, 2009, 11:39:35 PM »

Fished the Green today, the water was colored a bit and it was up about 6 inches from yesterday. Hit a nice 34'' by 17'' hen, chrome as could be (native or Un-marked witch ever you perfer) Beautiful fish. Never left the water. Also hit a ready to spawn 19 1/2'' buck. Cute little thing. Only whacked one nate In my life time. Not proud of it! But sure was the best fish I ever ate! I'm just a little dissapointed in the way you guys express your feelings towards other peoples actions. From what I've learned thats not the way to get people to follow in your foot steps.
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« Reply #32: February 27, 2009, 12:49:14 AM »

Whats wrong with keeping a Unmarked fish every few years? The word native is such a bs word. How many of those unmarked fish on the green do you think are truly Native to the river? Very few in my opinion. Keeping an Unmarked fish (one a year In the state of wash) Isn't why the stocks are down! So quit hating on the ocassional guy who keeps an unmarked fish. They only get one a year. If they choose. The god dang Native americans (I really wonder how native they are anymore) Pick them off by the hundereds.  So whos the real A-Hole?


Fished the Green today, the water was colored a bit and it was up about 6 inches from yesterday. Hit a nice 34'' by 17'' hen, chrome as could be (native or Un-marked witch ever you perfer) Beautiful fish. Never left the water. Also hit a ready to spawn 19 1/2'' buck. Cute little thing. Only whacked one nate In my life time. Not proud of it! But sure was the best fish I ever ate! I'm just a little dissapointed in the way you guys express your feelings towards other peoples actions. From what I've learned thats not the way to get people to follow in your foot steps.
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« Reply #33: February 27, 2009, 01:32:32 AM »

i'm not going to get too nasty with someone who keeps a legal fish, but i will let them know that it's morally the wrong thing to do and try to educate them.  in a perfect world this wouldn't be an issue, but it seems that the fish populations are declining as angler numbers and total days spent on the water are exploding, these fish can't handle the pressure of a kill fishery.

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« Reply #34: February 27, 2009, 02:15:56 AM »

I'd Bonk Barbless If I had a chance! Wink

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« Reply #35: February 27, 2009, 08:53:19 AM »

I'd Bonk Barbless If I had a chance! Wink

 wow.............. Anyways I cant really tell people not to keep nates specially if its a legal fish but in my case i let my nates go i think its the least us river anglers can do to help this up hill battle with keeping this fish from being wiped out. i know its tough sometimes hearing people keeping there nates and trust me i know sometimes its really hard for me to keep my mouth shut when i hear stuff like that, but in my opinion i think keeping a nate is  lame

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« Reply #36: February 27, 2009, 09:15:49 AM »

I'd Bonk Barbless If I had a chance! Wink

Oh Bob... I am so sorry if I hurt your feelings.  I have had a change of heart about you Bob... let me buy you a beer to make up for it.  Grin



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I am using the term beer loosely at this point Wink

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« Reply #37: February 27, 2009, 09:20:51 AM »

I'd Bonk Barbless If I had a chance! Wink

Oh Bob... I am so sorry if I hurt your feelings.  I have had a change of heart about you Bob... let me buy you a beer to make up for it.  Grin



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« Reply #38: February 27, 2009, 10:28:37 AM »

This is a wdfw issue not a yahoo bonking issue. If it's legal then its ok. If it's illegal then its not ok. Lets get a rule change not a hemorrhage.

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« Reply #39: February 27, 2009, 01:49:04 PM »

sorry! i didn't want this post to turn ugly or personal . i just thought it was interresting {crappy} how many people still bonk nates. that was all i was getting at. i figured you guys would be as shocked as i was to see only 8 released out of 30 something.

   

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« Reply #40: February 27, 2009, 10:12:46 PM »

No such thing as forgone opportunity with a CNR fishery, there are still impacts - which are our opportunity...

Steve, I hear ya, it is a shame that it has to come to personal remarks.  The law/regulation needs to be changed, until then if it is legal to do so you can bonk a nate.  Just don't think you're going to get sympathy, congrats, or any cheerio's from this group if you choose to let us know that you kill native steelhead.  We simply express our ethics in the best way we know how (some of us get a little carried away), it is an issue of great importance to us.   Wink

We are the last line of defense of these fish, and should reward the opportunity we are given with responsible stewardship - ie safe releasal to continue their journey.



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« Reply #41: February 28, 2009, 08:33:52 AM »

 I agree

Well said, hooknose.

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« Reply #42: February 28, 2009, 08:40:16 AM »

Hooknose,
There is already a mortality component (which counts towards our 50%)attached to C&R...so any reduction in legal harvest of wild steelhead will be viewed as forgone opportunity.  I'm not saying that's fair but that is how it worked when we dropped our legal harvest opportunity on wild steelhead.  It's no different than in the past when the state would ponder whether to have a one week kill fishery on the nooch or open it an additional month to C&R.

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« Reply #43: March 01, 2009, 03:23:00 PM »

I didn't read the whole thread, so forgive me if someone already said this...

Regarding the numbers on the Hoh, you are most likely only going to see the checkers at a couple of the boat launches in the lower stretches...which also happens to be the areas where the plunkers hang out...if you were able to count the fish being released upstream that aren't ever mentioned to the checkers, the numbers would look a lot better.

Doesn't make it any cooler that 30 fish get bonked on any given Saturday in the lower river, though.

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